I don’t believe it has been beaten for recoil reduction by anything smaller in size, and while it does overcompensate just a bit with this full-power 5.56, it’s spot-on with the inexpensive .223 I shoot most of the time. Plus, at $89.99, it’s beating out most of its high-quality competition on price as well, and by a big margin in many cases. We have more new and innovative products coming soon too. We have taken the AR15 weapons system to a new level. It would be great if you guys could do an additional test on recoil buffer systems (enidine, etcetera). Put something solid, even if it’s as narrow as a pencil, on the buttstock right on the bore axis and I don’t believe that muzzle is going to move in any direction (bare muzzle; no muzzle device). MSRP: $57.95. The slow-mo did show no flash out the sides or top, and a fairly steady muzzle. Check great and honest reviews! R&D MRAD Now, if you prevent the rifle from moving rearwards, the rifle’s inertia and center of mass are taken out of the equation and it won’t rotate. As long as you don’t mind being without it for ~2 weeks. While the machining and finish are really great, I can’t really advise anybody to consider purchasing this brake under any circumstance other than as a display item. Jeremy, I think I got a good way to test muzzle rise. Not sure if something like the AFAB would be best, or if there’s something with less blast that’s almost as good in steadying the muzzle. The suppressor itself, however, has recoil reduction and flash reduction benefits…. APA Gen II Little Bastard Honestly if they aren’t readily available for purchase then I’d probably pass. © COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. While picking up a RISE Armament drop-in trigger for review and inclusion in the AR-15 drop-in trigger roundup I’ve been working on, I also got my hands on this RA-701 compensator. I should note that I categorically disagree with your assertions that the M4-72 does not do a good job with muzzle control or that it negatively impacts accuracy. I have one for a standard AR barrel that I’d be willing to lend for the test. There’s now a version 2.0 of the Mini Comp, but I still own and use this one. Good work nonetheless! If you have a reliable contact for them let me know, as I’d happily include one or two in the next test if they’ll donate or loan them. You mean the Rolls Royce (later lisenced by Packard) “Merlin” inverted V12 that was used to power the P-51 Mustang (that originally used the underpowered Allison V-1710 V12)? However, you’ll note in the first test that it mounts onto a very specifically sized & shaped, square-with-rounded-corners sort of a flange near the base of the muzzle device. I just saw that the smith one was in there. Many of the companies that make suppressors also make muzzle brakes. One of theirs was in this test haha. Finish: deep black oxide Let’s say it reduces it by 50%. …hope that at least clarifies what the numbers are, but the point is just to show directly comparable numbers and it doesn’t matter if they’re small numbers or large numbers or what since it’s a ratio.). I’m trying to decide on a brake/blast shield combo and I’m interested in recoil reduction with the blast shield installed. The bottom line is as a shooter and customer I am going to use what works best with no thought to fairness or partiality. You may have to register before you can post: click the … Although the $16, 3-chamber brake off Amazon beat the J-Comp in performance per dollar in Shootout #1, the J-Comp is leaps and bounds nicer in fit and finish (plus has wrench flats so you can actually install it) and has significantly less concussion/blast. Great job, Jeremy, I could have never imagined an actual, effective method to test this. This device is designed and intended to reduce felt recoil and muzzle climb. Another newbie: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/26/griffin-armament-1-ounce-minimalist-brake/, Any plans on doing a similar study on what’s currently available for .30 cal guns? Finish is an even, matte black. Thank you. …There can be negative trade-offs to all of those things, though, so the final design may sacrifice ultimate recoil reduction to assist in another way. I’d like to see a) JP Recoil Eliminator compared. LOL!! Also available in Desert Sand and FDE Cerakote, or machined stainless) The gun is pushed rearwards right along the axis of the barrel by two things: pushing the mass of the bullet forwards means equal force is going to push the rifle rearwards, and the ‘explosion’ of gasses from the muzzle pushes the rifle rearwards (which works in multiple ways…one is that there’s higher pressure in all directions than outwards from the muzzle so the net result is rearwards push, just like a rocket engine in space, and the other is the blast and pressure of those gasses pushing against the air and pushing the rifle back in return). Material: 416 stainless Was there any effort to measure the “buddy effing” (aka over pressure) of each device? Things That Don’t Suck: AAC Aviator 2 .22LR Suppressor, Gear Review: 80% Arms Easy Jig Gen 3 Multi-Platform 80% Lower Jig, Gear Review: TKC Architect Field Buddy Customizable Knives, http://www.v7weaponsystems.com/collections/frontpage/products/furion, http://www.shopmillerprecisionarms.com/Hammerhead_Muzzle_Brake_Miller_Precision_Arms_p/hh-muzzle-brake.htm, http://longrangedesign.com/hem/products/muzzle-brake.html, http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/05/26/griffin-armament-1-ounce-minimalist-brake/, http://www.ar15news.com/2015/06/11/alamo-star-announces-cowl-induction-break-cib/, http://www.recoilweb.com/frank-proctors-new-muzzle-device-67177.html, http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/06/24/muzzle-brakes-field-test/, http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/TROMIX_308_SAIGA_SHARK_RIFLE_BRAKE_COMPENSATOR_p/trx-308shark.htm, http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tranquilo-556-muzzle-brakeadapter, http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/02/02/18-muzzle-break/, http://www.specializedtactical.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=94. In the event that the rifle isn’t moving rearwards at all it isn’t trying to rotate at all and the muzzle WILL be driven downwards by the comp. Weight: 1.97 oz (Long Range model) This product is 100% CNC machined for optimal performance. Flawless machining and an extremely consistent and nice black phosphate finish. I also want to do another AR-15 trigger roundup (component triggers this time) and a couple of flashlight roundups (tactical and gun-mounted). In a sea of muzzle devices with recessed crowns, I like the domed one on the BULLSEYE if for no other reason than it’s unique. Add to Cart. If looking for a muzzle device to be used on a platform for team use, where you have other team members directly to your sides, which device would you lean towards, other than a linear compensator. EDIT: This is the second test I did, but it hasn’t been the last. The rearwards-angled baffles do direct some blast rearwards instead of straight out to the sides, but that isn’t really noticeable from behind the gun. I think I have the majority of well-known and popular FHs on the market for it. http://www.tromix.com/saiga-parts.html, Carolina Shooters Supply shows the 5/8-24 thread pattern I need for the Kel-Tec Machining is top notch. We let a couple of other guys try it on their SPR style rifles. This test took 110 rounds of 5.56 to complete. It seems to throw some “wind” out the sides, but very little actual concussion. MSRP: $129. You ever get an SJC Titan to test? Amazon now has a m4-72 clone for $49.00 not that I would buy a clone though. M4-72 angles the deflected gas rearwards, which undoubtedly helps to push the brake forwards even better (kinda “catches” the gas and pressure and redirects it). I wouldn’t consider anything but a linear compensator if I had to fire without ear pro and didn’t have a suppressor to use. Finish: machined stainless (8620 steel version is nitrided) Has the Saker Trifecta Brake been tested and I missed it? How about a 2016 AR-15 Muzzle Brake Shootout #3, These look too fun! It’s a fairly weird thing not to have. I noted obvious errors on many manufacturers’ sites so chose not to use any of their info across the board. It is one of the most effective single-chamber brakes I’ve tested on the recoil sled. Yeah the main issue is that concussion is hard to quantify and sound is hard to measure (plus all require ear pro no matter what)… in the first shootout, the FERFRANS sure made for a massive fireball though! Weight: 4.75 oz Weight: 2.56 oz Finish: parkerized Length: 2.225″ 4 Customer Reviews. I’d like to be able to measure concussion with some sort of overpressure sensor, but I haven’t found anything for measuring that. Better than some of the less expensive SI products and probably nicer than I’d expect at this price point. Do you have any plans of doing a test like this? Machining and finish are spot on. Noticeably absent (to me anyway) was JP’s large diameter version of the JP Bennie Cooley Standard break. But definitely the other, especially these three: VG6 Precision Length: 1.86″ The new version is supposed to be better in every single way. Length: 2.225″ I purchased PA M4-72 for my most recent build. In addition to the objective recoil test, all brakes are listed alphabetically below and I have stated my frank opinion on machining, fit/finish, and utility plus included any items of note as well as the relevant stats for each. Perhaps I missed this somewhere but … Jeremy, what ammo did you use for the testing? Also, there are a lot of other brakes that actually did the exact same percentage reduction as another brake or multiple other brakes and that combo chart still ranks them (e.g. The VG6 GAMMA 65 … I am not an engineer or a doctor. This product is 100% CNC machined for optimal performance. I have the #2 winner from the first test, and presumably still #2 winner of both, the JP Recoil Eliminator (the one that looks like a tank brake) on my $2500 gun but I have the cheap amazon one on my $500 AR15 and love it. Each port has a round hole in the middle that diverges outwards into the “Y” shapes visible on the outside. WAY delayed from when I intended to do it, but it will be happening late this month. Finish: nitride That’s the main reason I kept and re-tested brakes from the first Shootout. I am just wondering if you have ever got your hands on a GemTech Jake break for the muzzle brake test, and on your next flash hider will you be testing AAC Brakeout 2.0? British Engineering? Plus, there is some integrated flash suppression / tire puncturing features. However, this time around there are [almost] no flash hiders, linear compensators, or other devices not actually designed to reduce recoil. Brings up the point-does a muzzle brake work with a suppressor? Machining and finish are quite good. Were the baffles larger in size and/or if the first two had smaller bore holes through them (for whatever reason, they appear bored for ~.30 cal whereas the muzzle hole is a more typical .223 size), I’d bet dollars to donuts it would jump up a few places. Additionally, as seen in the third photo above, internal serrated ribs on the first blast baffle catch and disrupt gasses to reduce flash/sound/concussion. For now, onto the comparison of each entrant that joined us for Shootout #2! SJC Titan is now at the top of that list if I can’t find one to borrow or get through to SJC in the hopes of having one donated or loaned. Finish: machined stainless Just shooting next to a couple of low hanging tree limbs or a bush would be appreciated. Material: 316 stainless steel I know it would refer to the “wind” and even if it’s not 100% of the devices, it’s relatively associated enough for me to want to see how they do. I actually did contact APA via e-mail and phone to try and get one of their Bastards but couldn’t get through to them. I had to ask a question though. The spade-like design is certainly unique and fairly cool looking, and the MRE is reliably good for a fiery show out the business end. I also have to be able to shoot it without busting an eardrum. Another to consider is the V7 Weapon System’s Furion http://www.v7weaponsystems.com/collections/frontpage/products/furion, Wow, a lot of their stuff is dead sexy. Also you didn’t compare apples to apples. Ah, I only mentioned that in the video. For clarification, the weight of the total setup (rifle setup +rig w/rock) is around 14lbs, right? MSRP: $99. The Troy Claymore and the Ares Breath are the only two in the whole test that don’t have to be timed, and they are both “better” if they’re timed due to aligning logos and pre-drilled pin holes in a specific manner if chosen by the end user. It was designed using state of the art engineering techniques, utilizing CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics) and CAE (Computer Aided Engineering). Although it may not look as cool, I kind of think its performance as a compensator would be perfect with just a single port on top or three, smaller ports totaling about the same surface area (or anti-surface area, I suppose) as one of these. MSRP: $64.95. I look forward to reading it. I like to use them on rifles that will be used for expedition style still hunting like big horn sheep or elk. Finish: Ionbond CrCN MSRP: $100. Their company had a lot of gear at the Connecticut swat challenge so I spoke with some reps of theirs. Length: 2.2″ Have you ever done a similiar comparison in regards to muzzle rise? Diameter (at largest point): 0.975″ Glad to see the J-comp held up well this time also, will some of the hybrid devices like the J-comp make it into the flash hider episode? The chambers are offset a bit higher than the center of the bore, which makes the top slightly narrower than the bottom to vent more gas upwards, compensating muzzle rise to an appropriate degree. While I really like the reduction of recoil, I am thinking about going in another direction or back to my PWS. Do you think they should run similar? VG6 EPSILON 556 BBSS $ 79.99 Read more. Quick question though… Thunder technologies doesn’t list a standard brake on their website. I’ve got several, and at under $30 they are a smoking deal IMO! The King Comp is new to the market from Strike Industries, and it’s a pretty cool looking brake. Tromix.com shows it on their web site with various thread patterns: There were a few in test #1 as well. It is a reverse gill compensator which designs are good for pure impulse control but lousy for accuracy, and rear ward blast, and unpredictable dot patterns and long return to zero times. I know the good ones will be able to eliminate flash to basically zero, despite the ammo. For what it’s worth, I recently changed out all my flash hiders for the amazon muzzle break (not exactly the one tested but a similar 2 chamber model) and I could not be happier. It’s even more pleasant from behind the rifle with this on than with an A2 birdcage or a bare muzzle. So after all that… Can you tell us followers which of these if any are suppressor ready? Was there the same amount of ammo and therefore weight in the gun before firing for each brake? Diameter (at largest point): 0.875″ It won again! Material: HTSR 416 stainless steel The slow-mo footage for each device in the following video does show some noticeable differences in up/down muzzle movement as well as in flash, but this test was specifically designed only for measuring recoil — rearward energy. The best-selling VG6 Precision … I only wish it had wrench flats to make installation easier. Add to Wish List Compare Product. This product is 100% CNC machined for optimal performance. If the Standard one scored in at 66%, then the oversized one may actually be worthy of the #1 spot or at least beat out the JP Recoil Eliminator at #2 (I don’t like your scheme of showing the M4-72 as both #1 and #2. Brakes on the pink background have 3 or more chambers (the only “more” is the Seekins), compensators designed with lots of little ports, whether holes or slots, but no baffles at all other than at the muzzle, are on a yellow background. Diameter (at largest point): 1″ Hey TTAG, if I had a muzzle device professionally modified, and I sent it to you… would you test it? After playing with it for the first Muzzle Device Shootout, I decided the AFAB-Mini would likely be my choice for permanently pinning on a barrel. They’re both nitrided, but POF went for a deep black mid-gloss (which appears perfectly done) and Lantac a lighter-toned, satin finish. Material: steel of some sort one more … I’m assuming inches per dollar, but it needs to be clearly stated. Diameter (at largest point): 0.86″ What makes the Nitrous unique, though, is that these holes are threaded, and the comp ships with 6 set screw “jets” allowing the end user to custom-tune downward force. Just going to run the same AmEag M193, which is pretty flashy stuff, and leave it up to the flash hiders to sort it all out :). I would also like to see the APA Gen II Little Bastard. Finish: black (also available in satin stainless) Thanks! Add to Cart. So do you think that a rifle held from two ropes, one near the gas block and the other near the pistol grip, sort of suspended in air, would not have any muzzle rise if was fired? The Performance per dollar chart needs to be fixed. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. Where is all the info on the other muzzle devices that the ferfrans CRD fits on? The winner from shootout #1 is now reigning champion. Any reason you think it’ll perform particularly well? The rifle is held to the sled by means of the pistol grip being braced against the rear wall of the ‘tub’ part and a strap around the buttstock that’s below the buffer tube. Try it?? Length: 2.44″ While the CQB brake does not overcompensate for muzzle rise, it’s still made of aluminum and I just can’t get behind that for the reasons shown in the separate review. Looking forward to Shootout #3, I’m curious about some brakes I didn’t see in #1 or #2, like the Fortis Red and Rainer arms STC 2.0. I know testing is slow & difficult. Most of the manufacturers don’t say specifically, even though quite a few of them are standard A2 birdcage diameter (~0.866″) and have grooves at the base like a birdcage and I have to assume that many of them will accept a suppressor with a QD mount designed for that or the Gemtech Halo style, etc etc.
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